Yeah, Intentionally Losing Always Helps
December 11, 2009 at 12:59pm by Scott • 7 Comments »

For the second day in a row, Tom Balog of the Sarasota Herald-Tribune is stirring the pot with one of his articles. And today’s is worse than yesterday’s as he is telling the Bucs that they need to throw their last four games in order to be first in line to draft (sigh) Ndamukong Suh. He starts off his article with a blatantly false assumption.
The 1-11 Buccaneers have nothing to gain by winning any of their remaining four games.
The future of the franchise will be most affected not by whether this team wins two games, or three games, four or five games in 2009.
It will be most impacted by how this season sets up the dominoes for next April’s NFL draft.
I completely disagree with this. For the team to be able to come together and steadily improve enough to win their last couple games would be a major accomplishment. The players and coaches need to find that formula where the coaches are running the schemes and calling the plays that best fit their players. They’ll only find out for sure if it’s working in real games. Succeeding in that and winning some would give them something to build off of for next season.
When people talk about the draft in December, they’re talking about the first round of the draft. One player per team. And no one rookie, regardless of how great they were in college, is going to benefit the team more than the, say, 16 or 17 starters that rollover into next season getting actual playing time in Raheem Morris‘s defense and Greg Olson‘s offense. I would rather they be four games ahead of that curve than have the extra draft slotting that they would lose by winning.
All that should matter for the Buccaneers is doing all they can to get the highest possible draft choice.
Yeah, you go tell that to the veteran players who are out there sweating and bleeding every Sunday. They give precisely zero fucks for a rookie they’ve never met. All that matters to the players is the team winning and their own paychecks, not necessarily in that order. How does throwing games benefit either of those things for them? Some of these veterans are going to get cut in the offseason. Do they really want to put on tape intentionally missing blocks or whiffing on tackles for the teams they’re going to interview with next season?
This is a game of men and respect and honor and all that macho bullshit. How would they even be able to live with themselves if they let teams score on them on purpose? Can you imagine the respect that would be lost from the opposing team to line up against the Bucs, when they look them in the eye and allow themselves to be run over? Any player who would go along with Balog’s plan is a player that shouldn’t be in professional football.
All that win and any others would do is make it more costly next spring to acquire the player the Buccaneers need most to draft.
You don’t think the Bucs could learn a hell of a lot by seeing what plays work and what plays don’t and by Josh Freeman succeeding? Imagine that for a second… the Bucs winning their last four games on Josh Freeman’s back, him throwing three or four touchdowns per game and really getting into a rhythm. You don’t think that would fire this team up for next year? You don’t think that would benefit the 2010 season more than some kid who we don’t know anything about yet? You’re crazy.
”I hear you with the theory of lose by winning, get a better player and all that stuff,” Morris said. “But as we all know, the draft is a lottery and you don’t always win.”
Your draft slot is opportunity. The higher your slot, the greater your opportunity, it’s true. But Morris is right, there’s never any certainty in the draft. You know what it certain? Wins now. Education now. Chemistry now.
So, whether he’ll admit it or not, it’s in his own best interest for the team to draft Suh.
Balog doesn’t even acknowledge the idea of there being other players in the draft. Does Suh have some kind of mass-hypnotic power or something? I remember this kind of stuff when Calvin Johnson came out in 2007. Johnson put up some good numbers last year while their team sank to 0-16. His numbers aren’t as good this year, and his team is still shit. No one player (except possibly a quarterback) can single-handedly carry a team to more wins. This whole Suh suckoff is gonna get real fucking old by April.
Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik was in the organization when Tampa Bay drafted Warren Sapp in 1995 and he knows how vital a defensive tackle is to the Tampa 2, one-gap scheme defense the team is going to run again, just as it did with Sapp under former defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin.
Well, thank you, Tom, for making my point for me. The Bucs were 6-10 in 1994 and Sapp was selected with the 12th overall pick. Ki-Jana Carter was the “can’t miss” #1 pick by the Bengals that year — that worked out well. Sapp wasn’t even the first defensive lineman from that draft. Kevin Carter and Mike Mamula were both taken before Sapp. Mamula went on to become, and still is, the poster boy for overhyped combine results. But yet for two months, people would have traded their children to be able to draft him.
Dominik, who has a Big 12 background, will do everything he can come April to wheel and deal to land Suh.
Umm… this doesn’t sound like speculation even though it clearly is. Does Balog have some inside knowledge that Dominik is favoring Suh, or is he just assuming that since he is swinging from Suh’s ball sac that everyone else is as well?
But he won’t be successful, unless Morris and his players give him a top three overall first-round pick to work with.
They’ve been on that path all season.
So why not finish the job?
So throw the games? This is not a Buccaneers fan, folks. This is a sportswriter with a weird fetish for a 22-year old college kid.



7 Comments to “Yeah, Intentionally Losing Always Helps”
christomahon (December 11, 2009 at 01:53pm) :
I had never heard of that guy but he is an idiot.
This is a deep draft and there is no reason to panic about not getting a good player. Most likely we will end up in the top 3 or 4. I don’t want the 1st pick overall anyway.
If we are top 4 then we will have one of these guys available that we need: Suh, Berry, G. McCoy, Spiller. For a team that has needs at every position we will be fine with any of those guys. I personally like CJ Spiller. We need a RB that can turn 15 yard runs into 60 yard runs and I think that guy can do it. So I say let’s try to win a few more games and end up 4th or 5th and take Spiller.
TheBrainStem (December 11, 2009 at 02:20pm) :
I want Crompton.
Mark S (December 11, 2009 at 02:25pm) :
Completely agree with you Scott. Chris brings up a good point about the depth in this draft. Brain, takes a cheap shot at your Vols, and after all you have done for us.
TheBrainStem (December 11, 2009 at 02:45pm) :
I mean look at him he has all the intangables. In my opinion like Scott had pointed out there will be other DT in the draft. A drafting down option should probably come out seeing a few team might need a qb besides the rams. Miami and buffalo come to my mind. The bill wouldn’t be too far after us to possiblyt get Suh still and pick up a draft pick. I will not be upset if we don’t land Suh. It would be nice but not necessary.
PeaceDog5294 (December 11, 2009 at 02:57pm) :
Looking at the remaining schedules of the handful of teams with 4 wins or less, it appears pretty certain the Bucs will have a top 3 pick, even IF we can win 2 of the last 4 games. Heck, even if the stars align and we win 3 of 4, it still looks like a top 4 pick, since we ‘win’ head-to-head with Buffalo and Washington in a tie due to our losses to them in the regular season.
I’m with you guys–the Bucs need to go full throttle from here out and winning some games and establishing some sort of continuity is MUCH more important than where we end up slotted in next year’s draft.
Louie (December 11, 2009 at 03:12pm) :
Scott, thanks for writing this post. I agree with you wholeheartedly. There are a bunch of media outlets promoting the idea of throwing games in order to draft Suh. These fuckers are not Bucs fans and they all can kiss camel ass. There’s no guarantee Suh will be the overall #1 pick to start with. A lot of things have to go right for him in the next several months and it could come out that he’s a crack-head, a child molester or, worse yet, a closet UT fan.
If I was cheering for the Bucs to lose — I’m NOT — it would be to cause Morris & Co to be fired. Not for a hypothetical draft pick.
Anyone (other than the opponents) hoping the Bucs lose these last 4 games are cowardous trators. I wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire.
TheBrainStem (December 11, 2009 at 06:29pm) :
The guy on 1010 brought up a good point. If you want the high draft pick. You need to cheer for Michael Clayton with all the dropped passes. You need to cheer for Trueblood’s penalties, a Freeman sack fumble. You can’t root for them and hope they blow. If you want them to lose cheer the whole way. I can’t. If we as fans want a high draft pick instead of developing the team for next season we will be talking about the same shit next year. The woes of ’09 came from massive changes from within. I feel mistakes early will help Morris’ development as a coach. Us fans have to support our team, be patient and they will get better. Morris learned from a great lets just give him some time. But if I still hear dumb shit spoken from him next year and still no direction then the leprachaun should ax his head.
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