Posts Tagged ‘warren sapp’
February 03, 2013 at 01:38am by Scott • 5 Comments »
Your 2013 Hall of Fame class:
Four out of the five I thought should make the cut did, with only Charles Haley getting bumped for Jonathan Ogden. And I have no problem with that. I thought Haley had waited long enough for people to forget how he shoved his cock in everyone’s face in the locker room, but some things are hard to get over. Seriously, I heard that thing was so big that it had an elbow. And Ogden deserves to get in, so it all worked out in the end.
But we’re here to talk about Sapp. You may think he’s a jackass (and by “you”, I mean “I”), but he absolutely belongs in the Hall and deserved to get in on the first ballot. It speaks well of the voters who are mostly members of the media and were each undoubtedly treated like shit by Sapp at least once in his career. The rules say you’re not supposed to take anything besides the player’s work on the field into consideration, but we all know that if it comes down to two equally qualified candidates and one is a nice guy and the other is a prick, guess who’s getting in (see Haley, Charles).
I’m going to guess that Sapp will ask Tony Dungy to present him at the ceremony. His speech will be decent with a few jokes and a couple of ad libs in there because he’s good at that. There will probably be a couple jabs in there to people he wants to mess with, but nothing really overt. I think he’ll behave himself at the ceremony because believe it or not, he does respect the game and the tradition. But I’m not going to Canton to see him. If I ran into him and said something to him and he did what he always does to fans and treated me like something he found on the bottom of his shoe, I’d feel so damn stupid for making the trip.
Now next year when Derrick Brooks gets inducted on his first ballot, that’s a different story. That one might be worth making the pilgrimage for.
January 14, 2013 at 12:22am by Scott • 4 Comments »
The 15 finalists for this year’s Hall of Fame class were published on Friday. Warren Sapp made it as a first-year eligible while John Lynch will have to wait. And that’s probably the way it should be.
Lynch was excellent at his job; one of the best while he was playing. He should probably get in one day. But Sapp really did fundamentally change the way people think about the three-technique defensive tackle. He defined the position and was the whole reason the Tampa 2 could work the way it did for the Bucs in the 90s and 2000s. I honestly can’t think of a good reason to keep him out of the Hall for his first year of eligibility.
Here is everyone else:
Jonathan Ogden (first year eligible)
Larry Allen (first year eligible)
Michael Strahan (first year eligible)
A maximum of five can go in each year. Allen has make the cut. Has to. He is the Jerry Rice of guards. If Allen doesn’t get in on his first year, the whole process is fucked and I have no use for the Hall of Fame. It’s probably time for Haley to go in as well. He’s the only man with five Super Bowl rings. Carter has waited long enough, too. He was better than Reed or Brown. And I’d also like to see Parcells get in, but just because I love the guy. And I understand the arguments against him. He won two Super Bowls, but so did Tom Flores and no one is nominating him. But can you tell the story of the NFL without mentioning Parcells?
So those are my five: Allen, Sapp, Haley, Carter, Parcells. Next year, Ogden and I suppose Strahan should get in (although I’ve always thought Strahan was just a little overrated). I’m not sure about the two owners. Just because you’re an owner doesn’t instantly mean you should get into the Hall. DeBartalo turned around a franchise and I could see him making it. Modell was loved then hated then loved then hated then loved, but what did he… do? He didn’t preside over the Browns when they were dominating the AAFC. He drafted Jim Brown. Is that enough to get in?
September 28, 2012 at 10:27am by Scott • 4 Comments »
The first round of nominees for the Pro Football Hall of Fame 2013 induction came out yesterday and has some very notable first-time names on it:
DT Sam Adams
G Larry Allen
K Morten Andersen
RB Priest Holmes
S John Lynch
WR Keenan McCardell
QB Steve McNair
C Tom Nalen
T Jonathan Ogden
DT Warren Sapp
DE Michael Strahan
DT Ted Washington
DT Bryant Young
The Hall can induct no more than seven players per season and there’s a large backlog of worthy players waiting to get in, so first-year nominees have to really be something special. And although there are several players on that list who should eventually get in (sorry, Keenan, you’re not one of them), there are two who absolutely have to go in right away. And one of them is our very own Warren Sapp.
I’ve been hard on Sapp for the last year or so, but none of that had anything to do with the way he played football. Sapp was the gear that made the entire Tampa 2 defense go. It requires a fast, strong and smart defensive tackle getting quick penetration up the middle, and Sapp was the prototype. With a lesser DT in that position, the whole scheme falls apart. Go back and watch old games of Sapp in his prime. It’s a thing of beauty. A nice, clean pocket never forms for the quarterback; it’s always this mess of bodies jabbing and holding and trying desperately to get back in position. You know those insurance commercials about mayhem? That was Sapp. Mayhem embodied. Just like Lawrence Taylor in the 1980s, coaches had to come up with new schemes to combat Sapp. He changed the way the game is played. He may very well be the best defensive tackle ever. I’m sure you’d get a couple arguments from some Cowboy fans over Bob Lilly or Randy White and maybe there’s an argument to be made for John Randle or Mean Joe Greene, but Sapp is, at the very least, a major player in that conversation. And he deserves to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer. If he doesn’t go in this time, it would only be because he made enemies in the press and they’re making him wait out of spite. And that would be bullshit.
The other guy on that list who deserves to go in his first year is Larry Allen. And there is a really, really strong case to be made for Allen being the best guard in NFL history. I can’t imagine him not getting a unanimous pass to the Class of 2013.
If the Hall puts more than two first-ballot guys in (and it probably shouldn’t with the backlog they have), you’d have to say either Strahan or Ogden makes the cut. And I think there’s a spot for Lynch in Canton at some point, but he’s going to have to wait a while. He may even go in after Derrick Brooks, who should also be a first-ballot guy.
September 20, 2012 at 10:59am by Scott • 3 Comments »
Warren Sapp visited One Buc Place yesterday and went over tape with Gerald McCoy on his way to a book signing. You knew Sapp wasn’t there to fight McCoy like he said last week because Eli Manning was never in any real danger of getting sacked much less able to escape one. Anyway, Sapp was Sapp.
“The purple unicorn I call (Newton). This kid can fly. It ain’t even funny.”
Someone tell me, besides having wings, why Cam Newton resembles a unicorn. And why it would be a purple one. The “Purple People Eaters” made sense, even if it was fucking stupid, because the Vikings actually wear purple. And unicorns are for lonely teenage girls or old women with a lot of cats. I’m sure Newton appreciates the compliment. “Mike Vick can run fast, so I’ll call him the greyhound. What? What’d I say?”
“He didn’t have a bad second week. When the defense asks you to do that, you’ve got to do it.
“I told Gerald, the orders come from the sideline, but the general on the field has to be able to direct that stuff. Sometimes you do like this here: “Nah, I’m not doing it,’ Sapp said shaking his head.
I’m blaming Rick Stroud for this piece here because it has no context. It would be very interesting to know what order Sapp would refuse and under what circumstances. I’m assuming it has to do with not rushing the passer and playing the run instead, but I really don’t know.
Sapp on Bucs defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan attacking the Giants offense with stunts and games on the defensive line, which failed to register a sack. The Bucs gave up 510 passing yards to Manning.
“You can’t put me in that double bind and tell me we’re playing run when he’s in the gun,” Sapp said. “I’m going to pin these ears back and I’m gone. You figure this out after 51 passes and 510 yards, I’m going to figure it out while it’s going on. I’ll be damned, he’s not running the ball. I saw two runs out of the shotgun. I want your quarterback.”
This one has context, and it’s what makes me think the other one was about playing the run, too. It sounds like the defensive coaches called off the dogs when Manning was in shotgun? That doesn’t make a lot of sense, and maybe that’s what Sapp is saying. Whatever they were doing, it didn’t work. Eli may not have had to take a shower after that game.
“That’s what you get when you worked against that offensive coordinator for so many years. You think you can play a chess game. Damn the chess game, let the pieces do the damn work. Every time I looked up at the screen, it was stunt, hail, I’m like damn.”
So Sheridan was trying to outguess Kevin Gilbride because they had worked together for so long. In this case, I agree with Sapp. You can’t play those kinds of games. You wind up second- and third-guessing yourself. “Well, he usually runs in this case. But he knows I know that, so he may pass. But he knows I know he knows I know that, so he may just run anyway. Maybe he’ll quick kick.” Defenses love to say that they don’t let the offense dictate their scheme. The defense wants to be the one dictating what the offense does, and they do that by being aggressive and attacking. Just play the scheme you’ve practiced and make your adjustments as necessary.
And that makes four uses of “damn” from Sapp in seven sentences. He must really mean it!
“I said, “Gerald, walk in the man’s office and tell him we’ve got this. You can mess around on first and second down, but third down has got to be mine. Me and Kiffin used to fight about this. I’d say put it in my hands and if I can’t do it, I’ll give it back to you.’ Because I showed you last week I can get it done. Don’t bail on me now.”
I would love for someone to tell me in English if the scheme was completely different against the Giants than it was against the Panthers. Because the whole Panthers thing seemed to work out pretty well, and the purple unicorn is a much bigger threat to run than the polka-dot turtle (it makes just as much sense), so being aggressive in a pass rush sounds like a great idea for the Giants. We need Steve White to come around and explain the d-line play and tell us that it was all coaching decisions and not simple incompetence that kept Manning on his feet all day. Because from a fan perspective, it looks like they just didn’t get the job done last week.
September 12, 2012 at 03:22pm by Scott • 8 Comments »
BARBER GETS HONORED: In his 200th consecutive start and for the tenth time in his career, Ronde Barber has been named the NFC Defensive Player of the Week. Barber had two tackles for loss, a sack, two passes defensed and an interception off a tipped ball. On the pick, Barber jumped out of his wheelchair, snagged the ball, took a big huff from his oxygen tank and shuffled down the field for an additional 24 yards.
IT’S NOT A CONCUSSION: (say that headline in Arnold Schwarzenegger‘s voice like he did in Kindergarten Cop) According to Mark Dominik, LeGarrette Blount absolutely positively does not have a concussion.
I can categorically confirm it has nothing to do with concussions whatsoever. So, there’s nothing there. In order to make sure the information is correct and that we’re getting out the right information, there’s nothing concussion-related with LeGarrette Blount.
So we know what it isn’t. What it is is a different story.
“However, we’re going to do our due diligence on our players to make sure player safety is No. 1, the most important thing. He obviously had the hit, he went down, our trainers, doctors went out, evaluated him and cleared him to play. He did not play just because of circumstances, not because of injury.”
Blount is getting an MRI on his back and neck, but Dominik is making it sound precautionary. And let him take all the times he needs. I’m a Blount fan, but if Doug Martin keeps performing like he did last week and D.J. Ware can play spot duty, Blount will quickly become an afterthought, like condoms are with me.
SAPP FLAPS HIS MOUTH AGAIN: I’m sure you’ve heard that Warren Sapp called Gerald McCoy up after the game, not to congratulate him on what was probably the best game of his career, but to criticize the ones that got away.
“Sapp called me last night and said, ‘Look, if you’ve ever got a quarterback in your grasp like that and you let him out, me and you are going to fight,’ ” McCoy said.
We remember how McCoy tore his triceps over the last couple years, right? Arm tackling. He had Cam Newton in an awkward grasp and if McCoy felt even a twinge in his arm while Newton was squirming around, I’m glad he let him go. The absolute last thing the Bucs need is to put McCoy on the IR list yet again.
And look, I’m not going to fight Sapp, first because he’d beat my ass and second because I’m a huge HUGE pussy. But I’m pretty sure McCoy would pound Sapp in a straight-up fistfight. Sapp’s getting old and the amount of weed he’s smoked in his lifetime would need to be weighed on a truck scale. That shit slows you down.
June 22, 2012 at 10:39pm by Scott • 6 Comments »
Warren Sapp said on the Toucher & Rich show the other day that he apologized to Jeremy Shockey about the whole outing him as the source of the initial Saints bounty investigation information. So read what he said and tell me if it sounds like an apology. Or what he’s saying at all because I have no fucking idea.
“I saw Jeremy about a week after it all went down at a Heat game … and I told him, I said, ‘I apologize for putting it on the street level and making it derogatory towards you.’ The information that was passed to me, I stand by my source, but I hate that I put it on a level, that wasn’t the way it should be. … That’s what I apologized for, because I put it on a way lower level than it should’ve been. It was something serious that never shoulda went on and stuff like that. So that’s the problem I have with myself and what I said to him.”
For the record, that’s not an apology. That’s like saying “I’m sorry you feel that way.” You’re just inserting “sorry” in a sentence. It reminds me of this:
But at least Mel strung words together that make sense as a whole. What the hell does it mean to not intend to put something at street level? Is the NFL Network considered street level now? I think I might need to smoke about a pound of weed in order to understand what he said and I’ve been out ever since Sam Hurd got busted.
On a side note, I’ve been waiting six years to be able to put Fred Toucher in a blog entry. He’s one of the top radio personalities in the country and conducts some of the best interviews you’ll hear. Atlanta misses you, Freddy T.
June 11, 2012 at 11:19am by Scott • 3 Comments »
DLINE WOES: With all the optimism over the new regime and the focus on discipline and details, there’s always someone who wants to piss on your Corn Flakes and tell you something about the season that’s going to suck. Today, Roy Cummings is your pisser and the defensive line is what’s bringing us down.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Mark Dominik still dreams of fielding a defensive line consisting of ends Adrian Clayborn and Da’Quan Bowers and tackles Gerald McCoy and Brian Price.
Dream is about all he can do.
While the article is mostly about Price, Bowers is the only real issue here. He thinks he’ll be back for part of the season, but we’ll go ahead and scratch him off until 2013 and if he does happen to come back early, fine. But Michael Bennett is no slouch and George Johnson is supposed to be an up-and-comer, so I don’t think the left DE spot is going to suffer terribly. Price is in California training and expects to come back stronger than ever, but you’d never know that from this article.
If Price is not ready for this week’s three-day mandatory minicamp, Schiano said he hoped Price would be ready for training camp in late July.
Those are hardly encouraging words, especially about a player who admittedly played at about 60 percent last season while recovering from surgeries to reattach his hamstrings to his pelvis.
The fact that Price played at all last year is pretty amazing, let alone that he did well. He’ll be in Tampa for training camp because it’s a new coaching staff and new system and he needs to learn it. If they take it easy on him and don’t make him practice as much as everyone else, it’s not the worst thing in the world as long as he’s in shape for the season. And he seems dedicated to that goal. How about we wait until at least July before we start casting doom and gloom on the season.
SAPP SCHOOL: When Gerald McCoy was first drafted, Warren Sapp spent some time with him and Brian Price to try to get them to adopt an attitude of dedication. Maybe it worked, but it didn’t translate into much effectiveness. So now it’s time for Sapp to actually share defensive tackle techniques that could help in, you know, a game. But only a couple.
“When I come back from L.A. this time, me and him are going to get on the field together. I just want to see what he’s thinking, get his mind right, maybe just a couple little tips here and there. This ain’t rocket science. I’m not going to give him the formula to become the next tyrant on the field. But I promise you, you’ll see a much more improved and a much more complete player on the field this year.”
Why wouldn’t he give him the formula to become a tyrant on the field? Sapp wants the Bucs to win, right? He wants McCoy to be the best he can possibly be, right? THEN TELL HIM EVERYTHING! Give him every possible tool he could need to be successful and then let him synthesize them into his own style. I understand the merits of figuring things out on your own, but it’s not like McCoy is going to turn into a Sapp clone as soon as Sapp bestows these secrets on him. McCoy will still have to work and practice and watch film in order to be successful at it. What’s the purpose of holding back, unless Sapp thinks McCoy will overshadow his legacy if he tells him everything he knows. That would be pretty shitty, even for Sapp.
UNACCEPTABLE: Josh Freeman took a break from his football camp at Wesley Chapel to talk to the media about Greg Schiano‘s running game. It’s an interesting article and you should read it to get excited about the possibilities in the backfield, but that’s not what this entry is about.
Do you see the banner pic? Do you see that fucking hair? That, my friends, is a frohawk. And it is decidedly non-championship. True fact: No Super Bowl winning quarterback has ever sported a frohawk. Do you think Joe Montana could have won with that? No fucking way. Hell, even superdouche Ben Roethlisberger never went that far. If Johnny Unitas were alive, he would take a flight to Tampa just to smack Freeman in the mouth. You have less than three months before you start playing games that count, Josh. Abandon that failed boy band look and grow your shit out NOW. Remember this guy?
That’s a winner. That’s championship hair. Anything less than that and you’re just not trying.
May 28, 2012 at 11:18pm by Scott • 6 Comments »
SCHIANO IN CHARGE: Just a couple days after Martin Fennelly‘s implications that Greg Schiano is the new king of One Buc Place, Stephen Holder doubled down and wrote an entire article about how pretty much everyone besides Schiano is superfulous.
We must assume Schiano’s apparent autonomy was granted by the Glazers when the owners hired him. It also changes significantly the role of GM Mark Dominik, who often had the final say on matters with fired coach Raheem Morris. Now his role seems more of an executor than a decision-maker.
Holder gives examples of decisions that were “made” by Schiano, but never cites a source that confirms it. He just kind of says it. He compares Schiano’s level of influence to Bill Belichick‘s, a head coach famous for answering to no one, barely even the owner. Schiano has never been a head coach in the NFL before, and it seems strange that the Glazers would just chop off the balls of the guy who has been with them for 17 years and give his power to a coach whose last game was the New Era Pinstripe Bowl. I’m happy about Schiano’s hiring and everything, but if this is true, it’s kind of shitty of them. Unless Dominik is being punished for recommending Morris three years ago. That definitely deserves a pimp slap, but not a demotion.
HOW HOT IS IT?: Speaking of Schiano being a tyrant, he said something the other day that indicated that he wasn’t going to take it easy during OTAs and training camp just because it’s hot outside. He’s basically going to run them until they drop.
“That has to become our advantage,” Schiano said of the Tampa area’s taxing heat indexes, which regularly soar to more than 100 degrees through September and sometimes into November.
“When you get teams out there in that stadium and it’s really hot and you push the envelope, I think it becomes an advantage and that’s something that is important to me.”
I go into heat stroke after standing motionless outside for 15 minutes in Florida in shorts and a T-shirt, so running around for an hour in full pads is fucking outrageous. I felt like the brief reprieves from the heat in Tropicana Field last year were a good idea, but then again the Bucs lost ten games in a row and the general consensus is that they just weren’t tough enough, so maybe some tough love is what they need.
Still, hasn’t every southern football team at one time or another said they were going to “use the heat to their advantage”? Has it ever worked consistently? Has any losing team ever said, “It was just too hot for us to play well”?
I WANT THIS BOOK: Warren Sapp wrote a book, and it sounds awesome. Sapp doesn’t sugarcoat his opinions, and I’ve always wanted to hear what he had to say about the Bucs while he was on the team. He obviously had beef with Monte Kiffin and Trent Dilfer and Keyshawn Johnson and several others, and holy shit I really want to hear him go off on them. Like this about Dilfer:
“Dilfer … basically was an interception waiting to happen. There were times we practically pleaded with him, ‘We know you’re not going to score a touchdown, but please, just don’t turn it over.’ “
This is why Sapp protected Martin Gramatica in his rookie year. Some veterans were going to tape Gramatica to a goalpost but Sapp wouldn’t allow it. His reasoning was that Gramatica may be responsible for the only points they score and he didn’t want them to fuck with his head. Oh yes, I want this book.
April 13, 2012 at 09:42am by Scott • 1 Comment »
Warren Sapp filed for bankruptcy a week ago and people are still writing articles about it. The latest one is from Gary Shelton who reports on Sapp’s response to all the coverage, but really it’s platform to shame him for being bad to fans ten years ago.
I wrote a column about Sapp in Tuesday’s paper, and the email still hasn’t eased. To be honest, there doesn’t appear to be a great deal of sympathy for Sapp. Imagine the same financial troubles falling on another Buc, such as Derrick Brooks or Mike Alstott or Warrick Dunn, and more fans might try to feel their pain. Not so much with Sapp.
Ahh, yes, let’s talk about that article he wrote on Tuesday. Here’s how it starts:
Gone. All of it, gone.
Warren Sapp has worked his way through most of the fortune and most of the good will. He has lost both his championship rings, and almost all of the opportunity to be admired forever.
For Sapp, 39, all that remains is a house filled with sneakers, a life filled with debt and a plea for the legal system to make his problems go away. Everything else has vanished as quickly as his youth.
Sapp, poor Sapp, is broke.
First of all, everyone knows there’s a difference between rich person “broke” and everyone else “broke”. Sapp isn’t going to hold a cardboard sign at an intersection anytime soon. People file for bankruptcy because the law affords them the opportunity to do so when they get in trouble. He still has a good paying gig at NFL Network for a while and when/if they let his contract expire, he’ll find another job. He made a mistake reporting on the Jeremy Shockey thing, but he’s still a good TV personality and is very smart about football — much more so than a lot of the others out there.
He lost a good chunk of his money in bad real estate investments. It’s not an uncommon problem. Mark Brunell filed for bankruptcy a couple years ago for the same reason and I don’t remember anyone writing in such a scathing and sarcastic tone about it. I don’t recall anyone combing his list of assets and making fun of whatever artwork or quirky collections he had. Shelton blames this on Sapp’s reputation for being rude to fans:
It’s a shame. I’ve said it dozens of times: At his best, Sapp could have owned this town. Most people in Tampa Bay wanted to love the part of Sapp that was torn out of a comic book character. In return, he treated fans the same way he treated opposing quarterbacks: Rough. Rude. Blunt. All of the descriptions fit.
Who saw that coming?
How the fuck do those two things relate? I’ll tell you how. Shelton is getting satisfaction from seeing Sapp’s bankruptcy as his comeuppance for not being friendly to fans. And him. Don’t think for one second that Shelton wasn’t remembering every time Sapp chewed him out or ignored his questions when he learned about the bankruptcy. He may be using “the fans” to make his point, but it’s about him. This story and Sapp’s reputation in Tampa should have no connection. On one hand, you have a former NFL player filing bankruptcy. That should be a one-paragraph story buried on a back page somewhere, or if you want to go into his real estate loses maybe a little more. On the other hand, you have a NFL player who was rude to fans. That story was covered to death when Sapp was in Tampa and several years since. It’s over and definitely not worth multiple news stories.
And while I’m at it, I don’t believe Sapp about losing his championship rings nor do I blame him for telling the lie. Sapp is a huge competitor and his rings are the symbols of being #1 those years. Someone is holding them for him and they should. The monetary value of those would be pretty high, but the sentimental value to a guy like Sapp is priceless. No way he just lost them.
The only thing I’m going to blame Sapp for is not paying his child support. Inexcusable. If he doesn’t get that settled up soon, I’ll probably change my opinion on the rings because your kids have to come before yourself no matter what. But everything else is just piling on a guy when he’s down.
January 31, 2012 at 02:00pm by Scott • 6 Comments »
I waited all morning for some news to happen that was interesting in any way (maybe Greg Schiano would like to hire a coach or two sometime soon?) but it never happened and I’ve got other shit to do with my life, so here’s Pat Yasinskas reporting on LeRoy Butler‘s theory that Warren Sapp somehow influenced the Glazers not to hire Mike Sherman.
Sapp sent out some tweets that blasted Sherman and general manager Mark Dominik, who use the same agent. Sherman had interviewed with the Bucs early in the process and again last week.
Butler claims that Sapp’s tweets influenced the Glazers to pass on Sherman and hire Greg Schiano away from Rutgers.
Yasinskas mostly dismisses this theory although he does leave a little wiggle room by saying he’d “like to think” it’s not true. Well of course it’s not true. Sapp is a welcome guest at One Buc Place and will soon have his name in the Ring of Honor as well as the Hall of Fame, but they’re not going to turn to the guy for hiring decisions. If that were the case, they’d have hired Rod Marinelli, who Sapp absolutely loves. The Glazers know why Sapp doesn’t like Sherman and it’s not a valid reason to remove him from consideration for the job. A player who last was with the team nine years ago having a personal grudge against a coach isn’t going to influence businessmen like the Glazers. If they really took a player’s legacy into account when they made their decisions, the whole Derrick Brooks thing would have gone down a lot differently.
I saw guys on Twitter and message boards who were saying that being pro-Sherman is tantamount to being anti-Sapp and that’s complete bullshit. Why do I need to give a shit about who Sapp has a personal beef with in order to root for a particular coach to get the job? I kind of liked the fact that Sherman was willing to stick up for a player that he believed got cheapshotted (even though I am on Sapp’s side that it wasn’t really that cheap). I like a little fire in a coach. Being a fan of a team or a player doesn’t mean you automatically align yourself with their rivalries or biases or anything else. People need to stop being such fucking sheep.