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Johnson > Williams

November 16, 2012 at 12:30am by Scott   •  8 Comments »

An article on Brad Johnson = Boring week
There’s nothing going on with the Bucs today that qualifies as news or even interesting, so here’s a mostly historical piece from Pat Yasinskas that compares what’s going on with the offense now with the offenses of the past. And as you might guess, it compares very favorably.

What’s happened in the past five games has vaulted the Bucs into the league lead in average yards per play (6.21). They’re averaging 28.9 points per game, which ranks them behind only New England (see Brady, Tom) and Denver (see Manning, Peyton). Speaking of Peyton Manning, he’s second in the league with an average of 8.20 yards per pass attempt. Freeman is No. 1 at 8.27.

There are some interesting nuggets in the piece and it’s worth a read, but I had to take issue with one part.

Even back during the first rise to prominence (1979), Tampa Bay was much more defined by Lee Roy Selmon and the defense than it was by the offense and Doug Williams.

Speaking of Williams, he was the best quarterback in franchise history — until Freeman’s emergence.

That’s just not true. Williams is fondly remembered because he was tough and gritty and brought the Bucs from worst to first and won a Super Bowl for the Redskins. But as a quarterback for the Bucs, Brad Johnson win hands down. Williams had a Buccaneer passer rating of 66.2, Johnson had 83.2. Williams’s completion percentage was 47.4, Johnson’s was 61.8. Williams threw 73 TDs and 73 INTs in five years while in four years Johnson threw 64 TDs and 41 INTs. And Johnson has a Super Bowl ring with a Bucs logo on it. After Freeman gets his fourth season behind him, we can compare him with the others and see if Freeman makes the jump to the top of the heap. But before him, you have to go with The Bull.

8 Comments to “Johnson > Williams”

toekutter

toekutter (November 16, 2012 at 03:06am:

Not to mention this stat:

“Brad Johnson is the only NFL quarterback to have thrown a touchdown pass to himself.”

Even Chuck Norris calls him Mr. Johnson.

adamrice4381

adamrice4381 (November 16, 2012 at 01:28pm:

@ Scott – Do you ever think about doing game previews again? I started reading your blog in 2007 and those things were hysterical.

Scott

Scott (November 16, 2012 at 02:04pm:

Post a link to one of the previews you’re talking about. I might do another one.

manbearpig

manbearpig (November 16, 2012 at 07:06pm:

Scott if you need some material to piss you off I mean write about. Check out the video on espn south blog that yasinkas put up today. It’s a debate about who the guys on first take would want, cam or josh.

worker b

worker b (November 18, 2012 at 10:19am:

As a habitual devil’s advocate I must point out that quarterbacking a John McKay offense in 1979 was much different than quarterbacking for Jon Gruden in 2002 and stats might not be the sole measure for comparing the two. Johnson had one good year, one so-so year and a couple bad years with the Bucs, if I remember correctly, while Williams’ toughness and grit helped establish the Bucs as a viable franchise that could actually win a few games.

campyone

campyone (November 19, 2012 at 02:44pm:

I’d argue about Williams vs Johnson. The Bucs had never made the playoffs before he was drafted and were horrible the first year after he left but went three times during his five years as QB including the 1979 NFC championship game. Johnson was pretty good but to me more of a journeyman type than Williams who really carried the team much of the time.

gatorbait

gatorbait (November 20, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Good game on Sunday, I guess. No big deal.

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