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I Hear There Are Still Some Corners Available

March 28, 2013 at 01:45am by Scott   •  10 Comments »

Think the Bucs might like a couple of them this year?
With possibly the worst draft class in at least ten years and nothing at all happening with the Bucs right now, I may be forced to give a shit about world events and news. Or worse yet, spring training.

The ongoing lack of a cornerback with more than a half-page resume remains the top Buccaneer concern, and Stephen Holder did us the favor of looking at the more notable free agents and telling us why they won’t be coming to Tampa.

Nnamdi Asomugha (Eagles): He reportedly is nearing a deal with either the Saints or 49ers and hasn’t been connected to Tampa Bay. But he’s among the best cornerbacks still available despite his struggles last season.

Bucs reportedly aren’t interested. Like, at all.

Brent Grimes (Falcons): Grimes is coming off a ruptured Achilles and seems to have initially set his asking price too high. He’s now generating quite a bit of interest, but the Bucs, we’re told, aren’t going to be his landing spot.

Rick Stroud seconds this assertion. I thought he’d be a good one.

Antoine Winfield (Vikings): He’s 35, so he’s not a great option, but he’s experienced and can still play at a pretty high level. Some see him as a better fit in the slot, though he can obviously play on the perimeter, too. Winfield reportedly is visiting the Redskins on Wednesday.

If the Bucs were going to draft two corners high, then this would be fine. But if they’re planning on holding onto someone for more than a year, you can’t pick a 35-year old corner. Ronde will probably be coming back to take over nickel, and then you’ve got almost 80 years of corner trying to defend Julio Jones. No.

Quentin Jammer (Chargers): This former first-round pick is also getting up there in age, now 33. He’s been a starter for his entire 12-year career, including last season when he made three interceptions for the Chargers. In any case, I’m told the Bucs haven’t contacted him so this might be a moot point.

Jammer has been hot and cold in his career, but he’s not a bad option.

Tracy Porter (Broncos): He didn’t have a good 2012 season, starting just four games for Denver, but he’s young (26) and has some ability. Porter was instrumental in the Saints’ 2009 championship season, and his past in the NFC South means the Bucs’ front office is familiar with him. The Saints and Raiders reportedly are interested.

Another halfway decent option.

DeAngelo Hall (Redskins): Hall has superb ball skills. Always has, evidenced by his 39 career interceptions. But Hall’s weakness – man coverage – could be problematic for a team like the Bucs, who use the tactic extensively. Probably not the best fit for Tampa Bay.

Because a team can never have too many neck tattoos.

Mike Jenkins (Cowboys): He experienced his share of struggles in Dallas last season, losing his place in the starting lineup. But Jenkins, formerly of USF, has put solid play on tape in the past. The 28-year old is from Manatee County and would likely find the Bucs appealing, but there’s been a very soft market for him to this point.

So this is what it’s come to?

Joselio Hanson (Raiders): He’s been a reliable slot/third cornerback for most of his eight seasons, and that doesn’t appear likely to change. Whoever signs Hanson wouldn’t be doing so with plans of him being one of their top cover men. But he would provide far better depth than the Bucs had in 2012.

You’ve probably got opinions about all these guys (except the last one, who isn’t known to anyone besides his mother) and have completely valid reasons for not wanting the Bucs to sign any of them. But if the Revis deal doesn’t happen, are you really comfortable with what they’ve got now? Even if they were to get Dee Milliner (Alabama) in the draft (which they won’t unless they move up to get him), they need more depth. Any of the above corners would be better than what they’ve got, at least in the short term. Maybe Leonard Johnson and Danny Gorrer will be good one day and maybe that day is soon, but it’s not now and unless the Bucs want to go for back-to-back “Worst Passing Defense” trophies, they need someone who knows when to jump to break up a pass and not bite on out-and-ups. How much could any of those dudes possibly be for a season?

10 Comments to “I Hear There Are Still Some Corners Available”

cubsandbucsfan

cubsandbucsfan (March 28, 2013 at 09:38am:

Scott, what are your thoughts if the Bucs can get Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round? I know he is a hot mess, but from what I understand the kid can ball. You watch far more SEC than I do, so would it be a terrible risk?

Scott

Scott (March 28, 2013 at 09:50am:

Third round is a good value for him. He’s fast and a playmaker, but would have to be matched up on the right receivers. He can’t cover Julio Jones or Calvin Johnson or any of the other really big, strong guys. He has extra value as a returner, too. But can he stop smoking pot? He sounds sincere that he wants to, but you can’t be sure.

All that said, someone will probably take a chance on him in the second.

jampersands

jampersands (March 28, 2013 at 02:52pm:

So let’s see: Bucs “use man coverage extensively” (also confirmed by Steve White). Nnamdi Asomugha was one of the best CB’s in the league when playing almost exclusively man coverage for the Raiders. Had a down year after trying to play mostly zone in Philadelphia. Now, he’s available for a bargain.

How have we not made a play for him?! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!

At this point it’s clear he won’t be coming to Tampa, I just can’t for the life of me understand why not.

KingBuc34

KingBuc34 (March 28, 2013 at 03:01pm:

@ jampersands, the reason being is mark dom, doesn’t belive in playoffs or championships, he belives in 3rd & 4th string players to turn into shutdown cb’s. I guess he’s got a vision for the 2013 YUCCANEERS..

Mark S

Mark S (March 28, 2013 at 05:50pm:

@jampersands I am with you. I wish we would sign him. Hes way better than anything now, which can be said about pretty much all the CBs Scott mentioned. Is there a money problem at One Buc? Hard to believe when they were pursuing Revis. The only reason that makes sense to me is that he is maybe not physical at attacking the run and/or not a Buccaneer Man. Funny I don’t remember hearing a peep out of him about playing zone, when its not his game. So he is not a complainer. This is a lot words to just say I don’t get it.

Mark S

Mark S (March 28, 2013 at 06:04pm:

Here is a link to an article on NFL.com entitled “NFL’s five weakest roters” http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000154500/article/nfls-five-weakest-rosters-jacksonville-jaguars-at-top

Good news we aren’t on it.

BaldBuc4055

BaldBuc4055 (March 28, 2013 at 06:58pm:

At the very least, you have to sign at least one of your corners to give yourself a better bargaining position if you’re going to go after Revis. This is starting to get very frustrating.

HAGEN205

HAGEN205 (March 28, 2013 at 10:21pm:

i just dont understand why we dont sign two good corners ok think of it brent grimes on 1 side with barron over the top Asomugha on the other with goldsen over the top and add barber in there (mabe) and draft a young or two corners and you have all your draft picks aka not giving thme up for revis offense and defense both are at the very least solid and probably still way under the cap i just ont get what is so dam confusing there my rant is over everyone have a good easter

worker b

worker b (March 29, 2013 at 09:25pm:

I guess it’s unanimous, then: let’s sign some old cornerbacks coming off bad years.

avanderlay

avanderlay (March 31, 2013 at 08:10pm:

I agree it would seem imperative to sign some insurance right now, but it just makes me feel they’re fully set on Revis and if so, Dom is smart to wait and see how the draft shapes up and how Revis’ recovery progresses (as well as Ronde’s decision) over the next month.

Crazy thought – but what if they think Revis and Barber could be a viable starting tandem? We’ve all automatically put him at nickel since the Goldson signing – but what if they’re confident they can start (protect) Barber if they can add Revis and another day 2 pick back there?

Anyway, Dom’s a mad scientist when it comes to the draft, I think they wait til their on the clock, or trade back later in the 1st before sending it to the Jets…

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