Josh Freeman

Do Not Pick Josh Freeman

April 08, 2009 at 10:22am by Scott   •  10 Comments »

Guess why Freeman is getting consoled right here.  If you said 'because he lost a fumble at the goal line', give yourself a nipple tweak because you're absolutely right.
Quarterback Josh Freeman (Kansas State) is coming to Tampa Bay for a visit next week and I’m hearing more and more buzz in the Tampa media about how Freeman is a favorite to go to the Bucs at #19. I’m not going to link to all of the articles that mention it because I’m incredibly lazy, but trust me.

In any other year Freeman would easily be a second round pick, possibly a third. Physically, he is what you want: 6-6, 250 with a huge arm. He’s also said to have a high football intelligence, but that didn’t translate into great decision-making in college. He was inconsistent, was not all that accurate with his throws, has questionable footwork and crumbled in the face of strong pass-rushers. He telegraphs his throws and hasn’t shown a consistent ability to read defenses, choosing to hold the ball and wait for a clear window instead of trusting his arm and anticipating the break.

He is being compared to JaMarcus Russell and Daunte Culpepper for his size and arm strength. This is supposed to be a good thing? Oakland cut ties with Culpepper to draft Russell, and now they brought in Jeff Garcia because maybe Russell still isn’t ready for the big time. In that way, Freeman is also a lot like Russell. He could have used an extra year in college to work on his mechanics and gain another year of experience to help slow the game down. I don’t blame him for coming out in his junior year for this quarterback-starved draft. He’ll go higher than he would have next year, that’s for sure. But in terms of value, his stock is way overinflated. At #19, I don’t want a developmental project with a big upside that may or may not ever materialize. One statistic that comes up this time of year is that underclassmen quarterbacks drafted in the first round are usually busts. Ben Roethlisberger is the big exception with Aaron Rodgers also having some success. See if you can think of another before you get to Drew Bledsoe in 1993.

For some reason, the Tribune insisted on quoting Mel Kiper in the article.

“Right now the big question is who’s going to be the heir apparent to Luke McCown? Who is Luke McCown going to be the bridge to?,” ESPN draft analyst Mek Kiper Jr. said in a previous interview.

I think Luke should just change his name. People hear “McCown” and immediately think stopgap or backup. Jesus, McCown is going to be 28 when the season starts. He could legitimately play for the Bucs for six or seven years before you would have to start thinking about who the heir apparent is going to be. HE HASN’T OPENED UP A SEASON AS A STARTER YET and Kiper is already looking to replace him? McCown is just as good an athlete as Freeman is — maybe even a better overall athlete. I’m not sure who would win in a long ball competition, but I know McCown can throw it as far as it needs to go, and he’s had some NFL experience to build on. It’s a mistake to dismiss him so quickly. God, I really hope he gets a chance to start and win some games. I’ll pull every single derogatory quote I can find about McCown and demand that the authors post retractions and admit that they’re jackasses.

If this were some quarterback-rich draft that only comes along once every 20 years, then you could make the argument that you could get a great value for a quarterback and would be stupid to pass one up regardless of who you’ve already got on your roster. For the nine-millionth time, this isn’t one of those drafts.

10 Comments to “Do Not Pick Josh Freeman”


TheBrainStem (April 08, 2009 at 10:45am:

I hope they don’t draft this kid. Absolutely a bad call. I would much rather draft that left handed qb at Florida next year than this guy this year.


Louie (April 08, 2009 at 10:57am:

We’ve already got a project in another Josh (Johnson), we don’t need another. We need to address the defense with the #1 pick this year and address QB next year when the draft will be good for QBs.

I agree that McCown should be given the chance to prove himself, but we need someone to compete with him (NOT Griese) in case McCown isn’t “the guy” or gets injured. Johnson isn’t ready for that role, so I think they have to obtain another veteran. If McCown can establish himself this year, then there won’t be an urgency to draft a QB next year.

Scott, wasn’t Josh Johnson drafted last year because he was a prototype QB for Gruden’s offense? Now that Gruden is gone, where does that leave Johnson? I haven’t read anything about how he fits into the new offense. Any thoughts?


TheBrainStem (April 08, 2009 at 11:03am:

Since Raheem coached at KState shouldn’t he already know more about the kid than most think. Maybe he already knows something we don’t.


Scott (April 08, 2009 at 11:15am:

I pretty much don’t believe anything any coach or GM has to say about a draft prospect at this time of year. Raheem isn’t going to say anything negative about the guy anyway since there’s no reason to. I’m sure Raheem has insight that others don’t, but what Freeman put on tape isn’t worthy of a first round pick.

Matt Price

Matt Price (April 08, 2009 at 12:32pm:

BStem, Raheem said a couple weeks ago that Freeman was like Rothlesberger. Since then, he’s been quiet. That’s disturbing to me.

Scott, I agree with what you say, but I think our new GM/Bozo in Chief, is looking firmly at Freeman this year or Vick next. Yuck.


Scott (April 08, 2009 at 12:44pm:

Vick ain’t happening. He’s just not.

Mark S

Mark S (April 08, 2009 at 12:59pm:

Please no Freeman and no Vick. Scott, we need the GM’s email address because it obvious he does not read the insightful and wise commentary on this web site.


Scott (April 08, 2009 at 02:34pm:

@Louie: Johnson doesn’t have a cannon, but he’s got a good enough arm and has decent mobility. The way they made it out, Johnson was the next Montana — precision accuracy on the short throws and quick feet. I don’t see it. He was Gruden’s project. With Gruden gone, he may not last to September.


bucman23 (April 08, 2009 at 02:35pm:

im with you i will be SO pissed if they draft freeman. he has horrible footwork and an incredibly slow drop-back along with an almost leftwich type windup. no way this kid deserves to go higher then late 2nd at best as a developmental project. if i had a choice between nate davis and freeman, i would take davis despite all the crap you hear about him, and he could be had in the late to mid rounds. give luke a chance and if he proves to be garbage, and johnson proves to be shit, then we will likely have a very high draft pick with a much better qb class. i’ll even say i think luke has much more upside then freeman.


Louie (April 09, 2009 at 12:33am:

Scott, thanks for your input on Johnson. I read he wasn’t very impressive at the mini-camp. I think the Bucs only have a 6th round pick invested in Johnson, so it will be pretty easy to release him if he doesn’t start producing.

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