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Rams Trade Away Carriker

April 20, 2010 at 03:31pm by Scott   •  11 Comments »

Just filed: The Rams traded Adam Carriker, their former first-round defensive tackle, to the Redskins. Compensation unknown at this time, but it hardly matters. Now the Rams are in need of both a defensive tackle and a quarterback. So what do you think the Rams will do: Sam Braford in the first and Brian Price (UCLA), Jared Odrick (Penn State) or Tyson Alualu (Cal) in the second OR Suh in the first and Colt McCoy in the second? After a month of thinking the Bucs getting one of the top DTs was a slam dunk, now it’s up in the air. Discuss.

11 Comments to “Rams Trade Away Carriker”

Louie

Louie (April 20, 2010 at 03:48pm:

Berry on the radar?

Sander

Sander (April 20, 2010 at 03:50pm:

Carriker didn’t play a down last year and didn’t play well through 2007-08. They have 6 other DTs on the roster. The compensation was the fifth round pick the Redskins got from the Eagles, and swapping fifth round picks with the Redskins, so they obviously didn’t think much of Carriker either. I wouldn’t say this changes the need for the Rams much at all.

Mark S

Mark S (April 20, 2010 at 03:52pm:

If you cannot get one of the two best DTs in the draft, there a lot of other players I would like to have that are both worthy of the number three pick and fill a need. For starters, we could take Berry. There is an article in todays TBO.com articulating that Berry is the surest prospect to be a pro-bowl player for the next 10 years. There is also the best OT in the draft Russel Okung, the best DE and the best WR. I love what Berry would mean to our defense but the number 2 pick then needs to be used on a DT. If you cannot be happy with the first two picks being used for defense, then pick Okung and a DT second. We need to protect Josh. And we need better run blocking. Start Okung at ROT.

Sander

Sander (April 20, 2010 at 04:09pm:

No wait, I said that the wrong way around. The Rams gave up their fifth round pick (from New Orleans via Philadelphia,163rd overall) and got the Redskins’ fifth rounder, 135th overall). So yeah, they valued him at moving up 28 spots in the fifth round. That should say a lot about Carriker, or the Rams’ ineptness.

Scott

Scott (April 20, 2010 at 04:28pm:

I knew Carriker was kind of a flop but I didn’t look up his stats before posting this, so I didn’t know how much of a flop he was. So if you’re pulling for a DT you’re still in good shape. If you were secretly hoping for Berry, never mind this post.

TheBrainStem

TheBrainStem (April 20, 2010 at 05:43pm:

Leftwich back to Pittsburgh for a 7th rounder.

DI

DI (April 20, 2010 at 05:47pm:

Brainstem beat me to it.
I am totally shocked on this one. True Leftwich is familiar with their system so they would want him back given their QB situation but to trade a pick for it, though be it a 7th, is surprising. Everyone probably was counting on the Bucs releasing him anyway. Either way, good for us. 12 picks in the bag. Maybe it can get the next Sammie.

cce6062

cce6062 (April 20, 2010 at 05:56pm:

I really hate all these “what if” trade scenarios that everybody throws around this time of year, but, uh, WHAT IF both Gerald McCoy and Suh are gone when the Bucs pick? Considering the Carriker trade, I think it’s very possible that the Rams take one of the two elite DT’s. If Suh and McCoy are both gone, I think the Bucs could still take Eric Berry or maybe Russell Okung in the first and then maybe trade one of their second rounders to the Redskins for Albert Haynesworth, who is apparently on the trading block. I know he’s not 22 and he’s not a rookie, but we were interested in him last year. Interested enough to offer him more money than the Redskins did. Plus, after seeing the terms of the Brandon Marshall trade and all the other recent trades, and considering the Redskins lack of early round draft picks, I think a second round draft pick (and maybe one other late-round pick) is all it would take to get Haynesworth, who is apparently in Shanahan’s doghouse big time.

Or how about this? Either McCoy or Suh is still available, we draft one of them AND trade a second round pick for Haynesworth? I know it’ll never happen, but those two moves would give us a defensive tackle tandem comparable to the VIkings (provided Suh and McCoy end up being as good as everybody says they’re going to be) and would definitely get me excited about our defense again. Just a thought…

Slow Joe

Slow Joe (April 21, 2010 at 04:06am:

I think the first three picks stay the same. Here’s my theory: The Rams would LOVE to trade down out of the number one pick. Well, with them trading Carriker (seriously, has any 1st round DT drafted in the last 10 years NOT been a flop?) they just, perhaps intentionally, scared the shit out of teams in the top 10 who thought that had a feel for the draft order. By doing this, they may encourage a trade down, perhaps with Detroit or Tampa Bay.

The way to maximize the value of your pick is to make sure no one has any fucking clue who you might take if you keep the pick. The Rams have done a damn good job of this.

But I still think it’s a smokescreen. I still think it’s going to be Bradford, Suh, then McCoy.

Sander

Sander (April 21, 2010 at 06:52am:

Non-flop first-round DTs of the past decade:
Richard Seymour, Marcus Stroud, Casey Hampton, John Henderson, Albert Haynesworth, Kevin Williams, Tommie Harris, Vince Wilfork, Haloti Ngata

Slow Joe

Slow Joe (April 21, 2010 at 02:18pm:

Sander: Good list. It is worth noting that most of the non-flops aren’t three-techniques, though. Except for Haynesworth and Harris, they’re mostly all either massive noseguards or 3-4 man-eater DTs.

Either way, they’ve been successful. It is sad, though, that only nine can be thought of in that way in the last decade. I bet the list of busts is nearly twice as long.

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